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Old Sep 26, 2006, 08:32 PM // 20:32   #1
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Angry Ok Got a huge Bone to pick now!!

OOOOOOK now i know that everyone that is here has at one point or another got pissed at this game for it's relentless difficulty but my complaint is about the way GW is now. With the arival of Factions and soon to be released Nightfall the Prophesies Campaign is dead in the water. I have recently got to the fire island with my Curser Necro and i can't get on a team cuz there is only 5 people in the ring of fire at a time and those who are there arn't good enought to complete the mission. I tried with a friend and henchmen and got killed 4 times then with just henchmen and that is impossible. FIRST OFF, the henchmen are there for the soul purpose of using them, so why can't every mission and bonus be done with just them?? SECOND, lava pools setting you on fire is bad enough but to cripple you as well is BS especially when you and all your people have 60% DP. The fire island co-ops are by far the most rediculously hard co-ops in the game and the difficulty isn't the problem, It's getting the people to do the mission with you. The game is just too far spread now and most places are almost completly empty. Even Lions Arch, which used to be the biggest town in the game is now down to only 5 districts at a time. I would wish for Anet to modify the missions to be completed with the henchmen so that way at least i can finish the main quests so i can get the full amout out of the 50 bucks i spent on their game. By the way for me joining a guild is usless tried it and they either wont take me cuz i don't have enough game hours with i have 730 hours or they wont do the missions with me cuz they're too busy in factions!!!!
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Old Sep 26, 2006, 08:40 PM // 20:40   #2
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1. I think henchmen were deisgned with the purpose of filling in roles in team, and not for forming an entire party.

2. You're basically saying you want the last few missions in the game to be easy, and henchable - it ain't gonna happen - find yourself a decent guild and run the missions with them (you may need to change your attitude a bit).

3. Tyria/Prophecies is bound to be dead now, there is almost no reason to go there now as everyone is finsihed there except maybe for farming or skills.

And finally, learn to calm down, and use paragraphs, it makes things easier to read...
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Old Sep 26, 2006, 08:55 PM // 20:55   #3
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Eh, I henched the last few mission and bonuses on most of my chars after I had played them through once with people on one of my chars.. less annoyance when an ele suddenly throws out firestorm or when you're fighting mursaat and the necro suddenly raises a minion [Yeah.. like THAT'S infused].... But it is possible, and actually not all that difficult to do with any char in the game. (Then again.. anyone who's played with me knows I tend to opt for hench over actual people because I've played with so many idiots) The only one which you should MAYBE have some difficulty doing it with is warrior, I can see how that would be hard.

Most guilds don't require you to have a certain ammount of play time either by the way.. most decent ones that I've been in req 3 simple things. A level 20 char, a good attitude, and that you play once every two weeks. And actually most guilds, all you have to do is say "Hey guys, I'm stuck at blah blah mission because there's not enough people here to form a group, anyone feel like helping me out?" And you'll typically get at least 1 response.

And yes... I agree with Swordsman.. Paragraphs are quite nice.
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Old Sep 26, 2006, 09:02 PM // 21:02   #4
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Almost every mission is henchable in prophecies (with exception of Dragon's Lair cause its BUGGY with hench).

The game needs to be HARDER

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Old Sep 26, 2006, 09:06 PM // 21:06   #5
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Everything is henchable. Improve your own gameplay, and win.
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Old Sep 26, 2006, 09:27 PM // 21:27   #6
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Everything is henchable. Improve your own gameplay, and win.
Quoted for truth. Also, as far as your claim that "finding a guild is useless," it can take a long time to find a decent guild to get into. Have you tried the available options here on Guru? And finally, use paragraphs.
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Old Sep 26, 2006, 09:31 PM // 21:31   #7
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Almost every mission is henchable in prophecies (with exception of Dragon's Lair cause its BUGGY with hench).
Erm.. I henched that with no problem what so ever. It was so easy I couldn't even be arsed to play properly so the henchies carried me through the mission. Of course, bonus is different, I didn't even bother trying.

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Everything is henchable. Improve your own gameplay, and win.
QFT.
If you want to play with henchies you have to adapt your playing to henchies. Reading the notes in the wiki henchmen article is a great place to start if you're having problems while using them.
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Old Sep 26, 2006, 10:14 PM // 22:14   #8
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Almost every mission is henchable in prophecies (with exception of Dragon's Lair cause its BUGGY with hench).

The game needs to be HARDER

/unsigned
I henched Dragon's Lair. Nearly got the bonus, too...
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Old Sep 26, 2006, 10:54 PM // 22:54   #9
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Pretty much everything is henchable, I've done all 3 of the Fire Islands with different professions and also Dragons Lair bonus. Knowing what to do is the hard part though, if you've never been through them then that is challenging enough.

Guilds FTW. Problems solved.

In WPG we always have new characters moving through both games and we have a group looking to form up a consistent "role playing team" that will move through the Prophecies story together. Tyria is far from "dead".
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Old Sep 26, 2006, 11:31 PM // 23:31   #10
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Everything is henchable in Prophecies. If you're finding it too hard to finish the mission then slow down and/or rethink your build.
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Old Sep 27, 2006, 12:07 AM // 00:07   #11
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TYRIA WILL NEVER DIE!!!!
Anyway, the ring of fire missions are extremely difficult, that's why many people throw in the towel and give up. Also I did hench every single mission although it is tougher to beat with such stupid bots.
Also, when you step into some searing hot thing that sets you on fire, you're not going to be walking properly for a while, that's why the lava pits cripple.. AAH!!! But anyway the game would be too easy if you can run accross lava just like that.
Also I say that you should never join anal guilds, they don't do crap. Anyway guild wars is more fun when you get people to play with you instead of henchwaying things. =/
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Old Sep 27, 2006, 12:09 AM // 00:09   #12
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i always end up losing 3-4 henchmen in dragons lair to the whole "they walk off into space" bug thats why i pointed it out >.>
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Old Sep 27, 2006, 12:18 AM // 00:18   #13
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"Almost every mission is henchable in prophecies (with exception of Dragon's Lair cause its BUGGY with hench).

The game needs to be HARDER

/unsigned"


Lol?

I find the exact opposite to be true, in fact, i never played that mission with humans.. Now that's a bit sad.
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Old Sep 27, 2006, 01:39 AM // 01:39   #14
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i henchie all 3 ring of fire missions with bonus.. wanna pay me 50k to beat each one for you with cynn?
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Old Sep 27, 2006, 02:37 AM // 02:37   #15
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I agree, the Ring of Fire missions are very hard. and VEEERRRRRRYYYY time consuming (1.5 - 2 hours min.). But there also very do able. I am W/Mo, possibly the most despised profession combo in the game. AND I HAVE DONE ALL 3 MISSIONS, HAVE 2/3 BONUSES, AND USED ONLY PUGS :O !!! Now try and tell me that you cant do those missions. (Btw, my post picture was taking while in one of those lava pits )
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Old Sep 27, 2006, 02:47 AM // 02:47   #16
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I henched all missions and bonuses from Thunder Head Keep onward. People just suck. Only thing you'll really have trouble with are Glint's quests afterwards no doubt. Those are definitely NOT henchable.
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Old Sep 27, 2006, 02:50 AM // 02:50   #17
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Only 5 people ? I goto the RoF mission and theres like 15-20...
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Old Sep 27, 2006, 03:31 AM // 03:31   #18
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Wait, I'm confused. Are you complaining that you are bad at the game?
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Old Sep 27, 2006, 03:42 AM // 03:42   #19
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1) It can henched

2) Maybe you should become the 6th Person not good enough to finish the game

3) These are the last levels in the game, maybe thats why they are hard?
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Old Sep 27, 2006, 05:21 AM // 05:21   #20
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I know that I just hench the first part of RoF for caps anymore, and that's all the further I go...I do recommend finding a good guild. It can be tough sometimes, but if you do manage to find that guild that you just click into, it enhances the game experience dramatically.

On a side note about henchies in Dragon's Lair, I henched that with my Mesmer. I started the bonus, then decided half way through that it was going to be too hard...but the henchies wouldn't die. XD

Anyway, I can understand your frustration, Ashiem666. I wish you luck in your endeavors.
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